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Offline Patrice Terrier

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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2019, 09:26:15 AM »
For SDK programmers the learning curve is not that long, tooks me 6 monthes to translate my GDImage DLL to plain C/C++.

But for DDTer's that is another problem and i understand the concern.

Anyway i will always prefer a compiler based on a pool of programmers rather than one based on the work of a few.
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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2019, 10:55:17 AM »
Look at Freebasic,  which is already dead and so is QuickBasic64  and those other old basic languages are either dead or dying.
please don't state your opinion as a matter of fact, FreeBasic is actively being developed

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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2019, 01:23:40 PM »
C / C++ is the way to go... The Drakes are a big disappointment imo. I wonder wether they put any effort in a new pb compiler. But even if, too many years have passed since the last version and I wonder the PB will be able to attrack new customers.

And for hobbyist: Delphi, CBuilder and Visual C, C# are free. There are enough options.

The enterprise I am working switched to Delphi. We never regretted it.

Lets face it: BASIC is dead.

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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2020, 12:35:13 AM »
Hello there 2020  and nothing from PB on 64bit

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The Drakes are a big disappointment imo.

 ;D   this is an absolute truth  and that O2 is our only light at the tunnel end


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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2020, 09:35:19 AM »
 After watching this thread, i thought i should try something. Please see this:

https://forum.powerbasic.com/forum/user-to-user-discussions/third-party-addons/pluribasic/788817-pluribasic-64bit-compilations

 If you want to be able to compile PowerBASIC code and even mix it with some of the C++ code... please support. :)



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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2020, 09:48:39 AM »
Brian

What is the current underlaying compiler used by PluriBASIC 64 ?
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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2020, 10:16:10 AM »
 Hello Patrice, The most advanced implementation is for OxygenBASIC, but it also supports C++.

It is not easy to work on both implementations though.


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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2020, 11:22:06 AM »
What C++, Visual Studio ?

Where are you living ?

Did you try to contact Drake ?
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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2020, 12:56:55 PM »
 I would not get too excited about the c++ implementation. I only tested with MINGW and im
not sure if i will continue with it's implementation. It is very time consuming working in two
implementations.

 I'd rather be exited because the Oxygen implementation supports some c++ directly. Almost nothing
stops you from using the statements that oxygen supports already. Im not ture but i think Oxygen
also supports c++ dlls. Thats why i might drop directly c++ implementation, because it is already
present in Oxygen.

 Yes, i contacted Adam Drake, he's a good guy but he is very busy. He kindly granted permission to
promote and sell PluriBASIC in the PowerBASIC forums.
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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2020, 02:59:03 PM »
Brian

I would avoid to make twice the same error, using a compiler that is based on the work of a single man (Zale's syndrom).

Fortunatly if you know C/C++ yourself, then you will be able to find a paid job to make your living, and keep working on PluriBASIC in your spare time.

But obviously the first thing to figure out, is:
Does there is still a market for programmers using the PowerBASIC proprietary DDT syntax ?

If i remember well, you are young, while most DDTers are already too old or retired to make a living from them.

I am realy upset when i see a young talented programmer wasting time with beached whales.

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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2020, 05:30:16 PM »
Hi Brian
This is truly a good news, very glad that we have a replacement of old PB in 64bit . The question is how much do we have
to pay for this Beta product of yours , what's the asking minimum pricing per year  etc?

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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2020, 09:50:49 PM »
> Yes, i contacted Adam Drake, he's a good guy but he is very busy. He kindly granted permission to
promote and sell PluriBASIC in the PowerBASIC forums.

This seems to confirm that he has given up.

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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2020, 07:03:55 AM »
I would avoid to make twice the same error, using a compiler that is based on the work of a single man (Zale's syndrom).

 Patrice, PluriBASIC is made in a way that it allows anybody to work on it. For example, I seem to recall there is a bug in one of the DDT statements for DIALOG END hWnd&, but in PluriBASIC, even if i died, you could just open up the library DIALOG_END.bin and edit the statement yourself. It is pretty straightforward and it even allows to enter code for 32bit or 64 bits in the same library.

 I plan to open it a bit more, for the moment all the "official" libraries would need to go trough me, but in the future i may implement a way to share libraries. Of course nothing would stop anobody from sharing libraries via email or something at the moment.

 Besides, DDT is a secondary priority ATM. I would like to make it for SDK mostly.
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Re: Any Good news regarding PB 64bit compiler?
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2020, 10:58:34 AM »
Brian

When speaking of single man's work, i was speaking of the choice of the core compiler, while i have much respect on Charles work, he is getting old (like myself), thus do you think that somebody else could take on his work, that's the question (Zale's syndrom).

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I would like to make it for SDK mostly.
If you do that, then i will find a way to support you (on Windows) with my own set of tools that have been already converted to 64-bit.
With the Windows version, 64-bit and UNICODE are the best way to go.
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