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64 bit COM programing with PluriBASIC
Chris Chancellor:
Jose said
--- Quote ---If your tool will allow to write applications using the PowerBasic syntax, but O2 as the backend compiler, then who is going to buy PowerBasic?
--- End quote ---
look at the bright side, Jose :
Brian and Charles should form an alliance with Drake to push out an OxygenPower Basic 64 bits compiler
which a lot of programmers needed to convert from 32bit to 64bit
Sell this joint venture compiler out to everyone which will be rewarding to all the Basic programmers worldwide
My boss is willing to pay to buy this compiler
José Roca:
You are a dreamer.
Brian Alvarez:
--- Quote from: José Roca on December 04, 2018, 07:44:04 PM ---I don't understand why you want to use my headers for PowerBasic if they aren't useful for 64-bit compiling.
--- End quote ---
Hello Jose. Certainly the headers need a small change to be completely usable for 64 bit compilations. Thats why i said i have been using only portions of your headers.
--- Quote from: José Roca on December 04, 2018, 07:44:04 PM ---What I'm missing?
--- End quote ---
There is a SYS data type in Oxygen. The size of the SYS datatype is target dependant and the same syntax can be used for compiling applications with 32 bit address pointers or 64 bit address pointers. It would be just a matter of using target dependent address pointers where needed, and carefully using DWORD's and LONG's where needed. I dont know exactly at what extent is this possible, or if internally the windows API is completely consistent with this.
So, by defining a lot of conditional compiling + the use of the SYS datatype, your headers can be very usable also for 64 bit compilations. Not right now, of course, at least not with a small change that for the moment PluriBASIC and Oxygen are doing.
--- Quote from: José Roca on December 04, 2018, 07:44:04 PM ---If your tool will allow to write applications using the PowerBasic syntax, but O2 as the backend compiler, then who is going to buy PowerBasic?
--- End quote ---
Exactly the same people that will buy it if the things continue as they are going right now.
Actually, i am not against Chris' idea, i think it could benefit all of us. I believe that when more than 1 person has a personal interest in a project to flourish, there are more chances of achieving this. Also, the future of the compiler has more guarantees than when only one person is developing it. But i kind of agree with you, this is probably day dreaming, because a 64 bit version of PowerBASIC could appear any moment... I don't know, maybe.
José Roca:
I think that the remaining PB users have convinced themselves that they don't need a 64-bit compiler, that they won't get anyway because the inversion needed to produce one will never be recovered and I don't think that the Drakes will work for the fun.
Brian Alvarez:
I dont know Jose, I think its like when someone says "I didnt want it anyways" just because they
know they cant have it, but as soon as the opportunity appears, they hold on to it like a limpet.
No offense intended to my fellow programmers, of course. I know that, because I would. :)
Maybe I should start a fundraiser. If it gets to a reasonable quantity (lets say 50 licenses), I quit
my job, and continue, otherwise, the money goes back to the investors.
I need it to continue anyway. Otherwise I will have to go back to my regular job once these free
weeks end. Last time i had some few weeks was back in april and may i think. At the current step
im going to finish it by 2030. :(
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